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Hi I was wondering does anybody know how to do a double fan/giant fan. its where you hav a normal fan, and then a larger one behind it, done in one movement?

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Faro, then fan. Simple Trying not to give to much details here since this isn't the secret session catagory. If you can tell what I'm saying off those 2 words then your good to go. Otherwise check in jeff McBrides manipulation dvd's, or in jerrys book plus its in like 10 other sources.
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Do you really think this is a secret session topic? To me it feels like not smuch a secret move as a neat one, like springing the cards, that is kind of in the public domain. With both, in the 'move' or demonstration itself, anyone viewing it can see the 'method'. As such it's a show of skill, not a sleight or secret method. All parties involved can see the faro and the fan - there's no way to 'tip' the method, because in doing the move itself you are already tipping it. Any thoughts?
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Ryman - one more hint: I do the fan two ways, one a normal fan (clockwise with stock originally held in LH), the other a reverse fan. Both ways, though, the key is to make the RH's contact point during the spread, at the interlocking portion of the two halves of the deck.
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Ok thanks.. but I still dun get what you mean Smile
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I wrote it that way so some moron didn't start crying about me giving away a secret or some crap like that. For your answer No, I don't feel its a secret session topic but I did it so I didn't have to hear any bull $&*t from someone.
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Uh.. I'm not sure.. but is it when you interlace the cards, like the first bit of the riffle shuffle, then fan it?
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Yes, exactly right.
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No its not, you give the cards an incomplete Faro shuffle, not a riffle shuffle.

Then you fan them.

Riffle shuffle gets too uneven.
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Um.. how do you do a faro shuffle?
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Oh yes, I didn't see you put riffle. I thought you ment faro. Faro them and push them in just a tad. Then do a normal thumb fan. My mistake. I read your post so fast and thought you said faro, otherwise I would have posted that is WAS NOT a riffle.
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Faro: basic move, you cut half the deck, then push a short end of one half into a short end of the other half, so that the cards interleave. to complete the faro you normally do a bridge to fully mix the cards together, but for the giant fan you leave them pushed into each other half-way - that way, you have alternating cards, one higher, one lower, etc., so you can make the giant fan.

if you don't get it STILL, then buy McBride's art of card manipulation dvd 1.
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Yeah, the faro is very knacky too so it takes a little while.

Or maybe its just me. Smile
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Wait.. I kinda tried sumthing out yesterday.. so when you interlace the cards, do you position one of the packets slightly out, so that it makes the desired look of 2 fans?

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Yes, In time you should get better and better at making it every other one. I can do a faro almost perfect every time but its only because I had to for the trick "unshuffled" otherwise it wont come out right. When your doing a gian fan its always nicer to have every other card laced but for that move it doesn't matter as much, still looks better the better the faro is though.
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Hmmm... I was playing around with it last night, and when I interlaced them I put them slightly out of line (not directly on top of each other) I found it looked more like what I was looking for. Is that how you do it?
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That's all about you I guess.

If you place the cards slightly to the side you can easier take the top fan off and retain the look of the bottom one.
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Yes I prefer to do it that way, so it looks better
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I'm just starting to do the faro shuffle smoothly Smile
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